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Revision 20 as of 2016-02-22 02:54:56
MeidokonWiki:
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  • CarRunningCostEstimates

This is really a sibling or expansion to the furinkan/CarFuelConsumption page. This is long term thinking, about how much ownership will cost you over a few years.

Assumptions

  • Five year calculation
  • Driving 10,000km per year
  • Getting car serviced every 12 months
  • A full set of tyres, plus a spare-replacement every 45,000km (going by RACQ working), equating to one set in this 5yr period

  • You need to pay for 4.5yrs of rego (assume you buy it with a bit left)
  • You need to pay for 4.5yrs of CTP (assume you buy it with a bit left)

Specimens

  • C200 (not the one used in my analysis below)

    • Very clean 2007 W204 model (new body shape): http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/OAG-AD-12322969

    • Fully loaded sporty 2006 W203 model (old body shape): http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3779782

  • Swift Sport: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/OAG-AD-12154782 (2013 model, 20,000km)

  • CLK500 coupe: http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-2826100 (2004 model, mechanic would prefer newer, kinda high mileage, far away on northern beaches, sporty wheels and suspension)

  • CLK350 coupe: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mercedes-Benz-CLK350-2005/AGC-AD-18238605/ (2005 model, high-ish mileage, looks like great condition, spent most of life up near Newcastle according to serving records)

  • Mazda3
    • What to know about Mazda3 secondhand: http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/mazda-3-used-review-2004-2015-37371

    • Go for a BL model, 2008-2013
    • $20,000 should get a high value SP23 (after 2009?), or a lower value SP25 (2014 or earlier?)
    • The 2011-2012 SP20 sounds alright: http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/mazda3-sp20-review-11273

    • First owner? Second owner? 22,000km in 4 months == 255km per workday: http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mazda-3-2012/SSE-AD-3692315/

    • Lesser models:
      • Too far: http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mazda-3-2013/SSE-AD-3551415/?Cr=27

      • Suspiciously cheap, expect $21,800, how 'bout them back seats? http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mazda-3-2013/SSE-AD-3779676/?Cr=26

      • Dealer model, also a 2013 Maxx Sport. It's fine: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mazda-3-2013/OAG-AD-12277773/

  • CLS350: http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-CLS350-2005/SSE-AD-3789749/ (2005 model, decent mileage, nice price)

Comparison

Merc C200K

Swift Sport

CLK500

CLK350

2013 Maxx Sport

CLS350

Comments

Purchase

10,000

19,000

19,000

18,950

20,000

21,000

-

Rego transfer etc

332

602

602

600

632

662

3% stamp duty of purchase value, $32 for paperwork

Depreciation

3,000

9,000

9,000

9,000

10,000

10,000

The C200 value is real, wild guessing the others

Fuel

7,850

5,300

9,980

8,678

6,000

7,850

I did 11L/100km in the C200, higher than spec. Other values based on claimed consumption, then scaled. 867.77 x claimed consumption (1.22x scaling, $1.42/L, 50000km). The 3 takes cheap 91RON

Tyres

750

1,025

982

982

750

975

Prices taken from Jax Tyres

Servicing

7,500

2,225

7,500

7,500

2,500

7,500

Guesswork here based on costs for a new Merc C200 and Audi A4. Swift is bare-minimum assuming you were to get their fixed-price servicing, Mazda3 is complete guesswork

Insurance

5,940

4,905

7,850

7,605

4,266

7,113

GIO thinks the Swift should only be worth $19,000, values the CLK500 at $26,740, and the CLK350 at 32,500

CTP

3,308

2,637

3,375

3,308

2,637

3,308

NRMA quotes becuase GIO site not working. A Mazda3 Maxx Sport would be same price as Swift Sport

Rego

1,584

1,345

2,268

2,268

1,584

2,268

three different weight classes

Total cost of ownership over 5yrs

40,264

46,777

60,557

58,891

48,369

60,676

-

Ownership cost per week over 5yrs

155

180

233

227

186

233

Divided over 260 weeks (5x52)

Notes on C200

The values above are for my first C200, more of a post-mortem of the projected running costs. What it really shows, to my mind, is that the purchase price was outstanding value. I could get another one today for $16-17,000 and end up on an even footing with the Swift Sport.

I had a quick chat with Adan at Maag & Stucki and he advises that the updated C200 (W204 model, which started in 2007) would be a solid buy as well, basically wouldn't go wrong with a late W203 or early W204.

"Make sure that it hasn't been modified since it rolled out of the factory. You do not want it Habib'd in any way whatsoever."

I asked about expected servicing costs and he advised putting away about $3000-3500 a year for the C200 (from memory this is what he'd said previously). I still think this sounded a bit high, I was a bit too rushed to get clarification on whether those are running costs, or purely servicing costs. He did mention that it'd be inclusive of tyres and servicing, but not whether it'd include include rego and insurance, which are killers to my mind. If it includes those, then 3000-3500 sounds plausible (to my uneducated mind).

I asked how the CLK compares, he said add another $1000/yr to that figure.

Notes on servicing

You don't need to stick to a strict A and B regimen if your shop services what's necessary, rather than ticking boxes (which MB Sydney had apparently been doing, thank you very much).

This thread mentions rough expected A and B costs from an indie mechanic in Melbourne, for what that's worth: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1991306 (notes are a few years old now)

They're talking about a C200K, which should be an average example. Up to $460 and $830 for A and B respectively. That sounds fair enough to me. Even $1000/yr would be "okay" for servicing.

WIP read later

  • http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1991306

  • http://cars.old.com.au/view.php/used_cars/2005_Mercedes-Benz_CLK350_C209_MY06_Elegance_Zircon_Silver_7_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Coupe/9945477/

    • also here: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mercedes-Benz-CLK350-2005/AGC-AD-18238605/

  • http://cars.old.com.au/view.php/used_cars/2007_Mercedes-Benz_C200_Kompressor_W204_Elegance_Charcoal_5_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Sedan/10741230/

  • CLS shape is very nice: http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-CLS350-2005/SSE-AD-3789749/ (2005 CLS350 for $21,000, 107,000km on clock)

Mazda3 notes

A 2013 Maxx Sport is $948 for comprehensive GIO insurance per year.

With a tare weight of 1275kg, it's a Large vehicle, costing $352/yr for rego

Rego fees

This is the table of fees that you need: http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/registration/fees/registration-costs.html

Day to day costs

What'll you actually feel when you fill up every week, or do rego+insurance?

Merc C200K

Swift Sport

CLK500

CLK350

2013 Maxx Sport

Giulietta

Comments

Fuel per week

30

20

38

33

23

19

Rounded down to nearest dollar

Comprehensive per year

1320

1090

1745

1690

948

1168

GIO

CTP per year

735

586

750

735

586

562

NRMA

Rego per year

352

299

504

504

352

352

-

Insurance + rego/year

2,407

1,975

2,999

2,929

1,886

2,082

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