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Revision 5 as of 2016-01-14 07:12:25
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  • furinkan
  • CarBuyingPartDeux

My C200 drove through a big puddle on Renown Rd in North Rocks, flooding the engine and requiring a tow truck. GIO assessed the damage and declared it a write off. As a result, I'm now looking for another car.

Contents

  1. Criteria
  2. Really good features
  3. What's new and shiny
  4. Mercs
    1. Valuations
    2. Riced up components
    3. B-class
  5. Colours

Criteria

The criteria are much the same again:

  • Auto transmission, Kat needs to drive it
  • Hatchback or wagon is nice, if it's not fugly
  • Features like bluetooth and satnav would be nice
  • Cruise control and the like is mandatory
  • Parking distance sensors are 95% mandatory
  • Not expecting to drive heavily, maybe 100km every week or two, plus the odd long holiday/photoshoot trip
  • Higher running costs are okay with me

The insurance payout is $14,269, meaning I've got a budget of about $15-20k. I'm willing to stretch to the higher end if it has the nice things that I wanted to add anyway.

Examples of some things I would've paid to add to the C200 as aftermarket:

  • Fat wheels
  • Bluetooth/newer entertainment system
  • USB ports up the wazoo
  • Fold-down wing mirrors to aid parallel parking (good view of gutter)
  • Flappy paddle gears, because I'm a bad person

Really good features

I loved a great many things about my C200, and it turns out that many of the features that I took for granted in my 10yo car **aren't standard** nowadays on lesser vehicles.

  • Speed limiter for effortless driving at the speed limit
  • Climate control, vs. abstract fan speeds
  • Vanity mirrors
  • Automatic headlights
  • Automatic wipers
  • Heated mirrors, not as important here but nice

What's new and shiny

We went and had a squiz at some dealerships, there's some nice offerings these days. A new car is mostly out of my budget, but a newish model that's a couple of years old will probably have most of the nice modern tech.

  • Mazda3 is still a bloody solid car, but the SP25 class is where it's at.
    • Trims are SP25, SP25 GT, SP25 Astina. Only the Astina has leather seats
    • The cheapest GT/Astina with less than 100,000km on the clock is $27k
    • Cheapest base-level SP25 is $16k
    • They have all the bells and whistles, at least in recent incarnations
  • Hyundai i30 is better than it has any right to be, it's a solid competitor to the Mazda3
    • Get a 2nd gen model, they're 2011 or 2012 onwards. GD model code, vs the older FD
    • The Estate/Tourer is apparently pretty good
    • Trim level names changed between generations:
      • Active
      • Elite / SR / Active X: add alloys, auto headlights, auto wipers, satnav
      • Premium / SR Premium: adds 17" alloys, leather, folding mirrors, fold-flat rear seats, reverse camera
    • Can be had for about $16-17k
  • Suzuki Swift is not bad, but I would say only in the Swift Sport incarnation
    • Tight, lively to drive, well styled
    • Still says "I'm a student" to me
    • They just knocked $930 off this one, now asking $18,945 with 20,000km on the clock: http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/_/OAG-AD-12154782

    • Good power-to-weight ratio, modern 7-speed CVT transmission, premium 98 petrol but fairly frugal
  • Toyota: neither of us are in love with the Corolla
  • Subaru: haven't looked at, an Impreza is probably the competitor in this class

Mercs

I've taken a good sample from Carsales and whittled down to a few good examples.

  • A 2-door coupe with very low mileage, 2006 model, $17,900 asking price. The fitout is on the bland side (small wheels, no hood ornament), but 50,000km on the clock should be worth a couple grand in saved servicing costs.
    • http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-583625

    • Sporty steering wheel and pedals, sporty Merc rims of normal 16" size
  • A sported-up sedan with 100,000km on the clock, 2006 model, $17,950 negotiable.
    • http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3779782

    • Flappy paddle gears, sport everything, classic W203 body shape, nice hood ornament even though it's labelled as Avantgarde
  • Sporty sedan, 2007 model, 79,000km, new W204 body shape, $19,990 negotiable for moving overseas
    • http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-3490780

    • Very fat AMG wheels, no hood ornament, interior plastics might be a bit worn
  • A few years older 2-door coupe, a beast of a thing, CLK500, $19,500 with no mention of negotiability, listing hasn't been touched since 2015-12-23, suggesting they might take a hit on price
    • http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-2826100

    • Sports wheels and suspension
    • Airbags only for front row (not sure if they were available for back row)
    • Leather trim and woodgrain everywhere (wood looks very light in colour), electric seats, has satnav?
    • Claims to be Elegance trim, but has no hood ornament
    • Redbook suggests value of $14,900-17,900: http://www.redbook.com.au/cars/research/used/details/2004-mercedes-benz-clk500-elegance-auto/SPOT-ITM-254494

Valuations

I got some valuation on three cars via Glass's Guide, PDF here: http://www.mycarprice.com.au/Certificate.aspx?trns=GCV0028782&email=1

  • CLK500 - good value if it's in good shape
    • Below Average: $19,000
    • Average: $22,000
    • Above Average: $27,200
  • C200 Avantgarde 2006 - they're asking a lot, but it **is** riced up
    • Below Average: $9,900
    • Average: $11,300
    • Above Average: $15,100
  • C200 Elegance 2007 (new W204 series) - seems like quite good value, and low mileage
    • Personal Buy Sell: $23,600

Riced up components

Waving my hands, how much do I think the extras are worth? Assuming I wanted to do it myself after buying.

  • Fat wheels: $2000
  • Better entertainment/navigation unit: $500-1000
  • Sporty transmission etc: ?

B-class

How about that B-class? Apparently they're practical, but not that pretty. Eg. http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-B180-2010/SSE-AD-3343388/?Cr=3

This 2010 model just dropped $1000 to $17,950, probably closer to fair value for it.

  • 104,000km on it, but it should have some decent go in it.
  • Redbook suggests a price more like $18,900-21,400: http://www.redbook.com.au/cars/research/used/details/2010-mercedes-benz-b200-turbo-auto-my10/SPOT-ITM-253428

Colours

Kat would prefer a white car: http://www.carsales.com.au/cars/results?cpw=1&sortby=~Price&limit=12&q=%28%28%28%28%28%28%28Service%3D%5BCarsales%5D%26SiloType%3D%5BPrivate+seller+cars%5D%29%26Postcode%3Dpoi%5B2000x50km%5D%29%26Price%3Drange%5B0..20000%5D%29%26Colour%3D%5BWhite%5D%29%26Make%3D%5BMercedes-Benz%5D%29%26%28%28%28BodyStyle%3D%5BSedan%5D%7CBodyStyle%3D%5BCoupe%5D%29%7CBodyStyle%3D%5BHatch%5D%29%7CBodyStyle%3D%5BConvertible%5D%29%29%26Year%3Drange%5B2004..%5D%29

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